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Old 05-22-2008, 12:44 PM
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A question to all you believers - How do you believe in a loving God in today's World?

Genesis- chapter 3. We chose this world. Before the fall of man, there was no sickness, death, hunger, etc. By choosing to sin against God, Adam and Eve chose this world for us. It's not Gods fault, the world was perfect before. Sure there are starving people, killings, and any number of terrible things, sin was brought into the world, we just have to deal with that, but don't blame God, He still Loves us. Why else would He humble Himself and become human, only to die on the Cross so that you can go to Heaven. After all of the sins we have committed, He still wants to spend all of eternity with us.
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God does not "allow" these things to happen. God gives man the ability to change things. Possibly the ones with cancer, the ones in poverty, etc haven't tried to change what is happening to them. God helps those who help themselves. You can't just sit back and expect it to happen just because. You must have faith. God doesn't need "another" savior , He is the ONLY savior. I will pray for you to feel blessed and in touch with it.
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God gave us free will. Evil in the world doesn't exist because God wants it, but because there are people who create it. THese people aren't servants of the devil or enimies of God, they're just people who do evil.During the time of the Cold War, not a single Nuke was dropped.During the Civil War, The Union won and slaves were freed.Those are only a few examples.
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That's a very good question, and there's no easy answer.The basic Christian answer to this is simple: men have free will, and we created all this suffering. We have nobody to blame but ourselves.However, this raises more uncomfortable questions: Does God not interfere on this planet? Does he not listen to prayer? Surely, those hundreds of thousands of people dying of starvation have prayed desperately to God.I have heard another point as well - "Satan is working his evil magic on the world, causing all these problems." Does this mean Satan is more powerful than God?Then again, isn't free will important? God might not want to interfere with all our lives because he wants us to have complete free will. And I think we humans ARE capable of solving world hunger, poverty, and war - the rich, spoiled people are just too lazy and selfish. How can we blame God for that?It all boils down to this: Are you happy as a Christian? Does Christianity still make enough sense to you? Or are you destined to become like me - a former Christian atheist? Christianity did not make me happy, but it might be a very positive influence in your life. If so, you should not convert just because you are confused by a few issues.You will never be able to prove or disprove God, so there's no point in anybody trying to convince you into being an atheist or a Christian. This is a decision you have to make yourself. =)
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:16 PM
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bro i am Pentecostal (i will try to give you an objective analisys)bro the only thing wrong with catholiscism is that catholics do not read the bible which, ideally, should be the center or the core of christianismi can tell you that even us (pentecostal) are going and living in a wrong way religion wise.because probably rules made to mantain oreder have become divine commandmentsand nowadays everybody seems sto have his/her own interpretation of the biblebut that comes to happen because those people that one experience a transformation by the holy spirit of god have right know become religious fanatatics--something that if you really and deeply inmerse in the study of the bible you yourself would find it to go against it. and this is why many people are going mad about religion in the world today but it is just the result of poor bible studylook at you you are a catholic who is jeopardizing in your belief because of christian ignorance but it is not your fault jesus already said that those feelings you are having about religion were going to happenthe bible says mathew 24:1212 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.so get my pointgo manread the bibl at least five minutes before going to bedand you will see the big picture.and if can not understand it the bible also says that if pray to the holy spirit for revelation he will reveal those secrets to youtry it!!!!and one more thingdo not judge. cause you be judgeno ......... just jockingwhat i was really going to say do not judge or label something wothout having tried it yourselve (EXCEPT FOR SINFUL STUFF AND DRUGS)
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I think the end is very near. I think there are huge spiritual battles raging like never before. I think nations are being judged. I think many Christians are creating a God to suit the lifestyle they want to live, committing idolatry without even realizing it. Just like basic universal laws, I think we're seeing laws of cause and effect. Why would God need to send another savior when the One He sent is about to set up His kingdom now and abolish this 'hellish' existence? You asked not to quote verses, so I won't, but I will say that the bible clearly teaches about salvation, the way to get there, and has answers for your questions. I love history. It really has a way helping to make sense of what is going on now. Then you can't help to ask yourself "Why do we never learn?" I f you like history, check out the link below and you might find some interesting parallels.
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Hey, Alexander. Please forgive me if I ramble a little? )I still struggle with the OT, because the God I know *is* so loving and just, and *good*, and I find it hard to reconcile the God I know with the God of the OT... I guess I want you to understand am not a blind cheer-leader, and I had (have) qualms, too. But. While there's so much terribleness in the world, I also see so much beauty and so much wonderfulness created by God. I'm not even talking about nature and babies n all that good stuff. Am talking about the joy people feel when they encounter Him. Even people who hated Him, when they meet Him, it changes them - we're made kinder; softer. That's God in us, making us more like Himself. We can't comprehend how Holy He is. It's just not something we can fathom, and the world today calls Him cruel, but He's not. I know Him; have run to Him when I've been hurting and He's picked up the pieces. Have seen Him call people to lift others up when they're suffering; have seen Him ask people to forgive someone who harmed them... He *is* love.None of us can pretend we live in a nice world, because we really don't. But the world is of our own making, and it's sliding further and further downhill. I sometimes wish governments would suddenly say "Ok, we admit it. Things were never meant to be this way. We're gonna roll *everything* back, and start again..." and we'd get a second chance, and we'd do it better next time. But it is what it is. It's loud and ugly and angry and there's very little trust, and very little love. But that's not down to God, it's down to us. We're the ones destroying each other; all the while, God is asking us to love one another - even those who have wronged us terribly. His way is the answer - love, forgive, be truthful, have integrity, share, serve, be humble, be kind... those are what He asks of us. Can you imagine how different the world would be if we followed Him?I'm talking far too much, am sorry. It's just this is an issue I spend *a lot* of time thinking about. The state of the world makes my head feel hectic and loud, and the truth is, only Jesus gives me peace. We don't look after ourselves, or one another; we kill our bodies; we pollute the planet; we inhale carcinogens by the bucket-load; we harm one another over the tiniest of slights; we all crave power, and substance - anything to fill the sadness and the emptiness. We fill the gaps with consumerism and anger and sex and celebrities and shiny things; we subjugate others in order to elevate ourselves... we'll do whatever it takes to make ourselves feel whole and secure. That's on us. It's our responsibility that the world is in this state. We've destroyed the environment and ourselves, and all the while, God keeps on loving us and asking us to love one another. That's who He is. He's not a door-mat; He's not the happy-clappy god mega-churches claim He is: He is Holy, and Almighty and what we do is abhorrent to Him. But He contines to love us; to bless those who bless others; He allows us to rest in Him and He shares our burdens. How could He be anything *but* loving? We can't even imagine the depths of a love like that. I know I talked way way too much. Am sorry. More words kept coming for some reason. Am sorry if I took up too much room. xx
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