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Old 04-23-2008, 06:48 PM
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Will Democratic Party Make the same mistake on 2004 election?

This election of Dem. Party looks the same as 2004 to me. Howard Dean compare to Barack Obama in term of run from the outside of Beltway and have very strong support from normal working class people. After Dr. Dean made comment about the poor Southerners, he was crushed by estblishment John Kerry. Will Dem. Party (super deligates) do the same thing to Barack Obama? Will they nominate establishment Hillary Clinton?
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Not this time. When Obama drops out , Hillary will be in controll to White house.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:57 PM
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Obama will be the nominee in all likelyhood. There is still a very small possibility that Clinton can somehow manage to get the super delegates to go her way but this would severely weaken the party and make people upset b/c of the fact that Obama will be leading before supers decide. One thing to note on this front is the fact that more people voting for Clinton will vote McCain or stay at home if it is Obama vs. McCain in Nov. then the other way around. So more Obama supporters will vote Hillary then Hillary supporters would vote for Obama. Which is obviously important to the general election.
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Hillary knows how to navigate this country through all their trail and tribulations because she knows the players like tha GS 19 that really makes the real decisions that effect the President and its decisions. John Kerry had "The Plan" and i voted for him and I never understood what the plan was and I think that it was as fake as George Bush speech on compassion and caring about regualr folks. Obama come with this "Changw and Iraq platform" now how many time do I have to hear this to know that is as empty as The Plan. Hillary has real solution for our problems and is not just given us lip service.
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I am a normal working American and I think Obama would be very bad for working people by raising our taxes. He has Marxist philosophy which desires to destroy the middle class and make everyone rely on the government. I don't think he is electable because recently Hillary has been taking all the big states and if the party wants the White House they better nominate Hillary or have 4 more year of a Republican in the White House. Obama is not what he claims to be. he is no more than a professional politician.
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By choosing the mediocre black candidate with hollow speech , That will do.
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I sure hope so. Republican president will be necessary to protect ourselves. I don't trust the dems to know what to do.
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