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Old 03-06-2008, 09:52 AM
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How much longer til Hillary Clinton completely tears apart the democratic party?

This isn't even about the presidential nomination anymore. Anyone else sick and tired of the personal attacks. I hate how uneducated racists are. How can you live with yourselves?
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considering that the democratic party can be compared to trying to herd cats, it sounds like it's already torn apart.

consider this:
the democratic party is comprised of everyone from racist dixiecrats to militant feminists to gays with HIV to doctors, lawyers, scientists, christian ministers, blacks, jews, factory workers, etc.

the democratic party's only consistent theme is civil rights and populism. it is largely a cross section of america, since everyone and anyone belongs to the party, regardless of demographic.

democrats largely cannot get anything done because of the lack of solidarity among their constituents. one of the reasons why republicans are able to get laws enacted (for good or for bad is up to you) is because they are perceived to be comprised of white, upper and middle class, and usually protestant.

my own belief is that the only reason the democratic party has any leverage at all is because there are so many americans who do not fit into the republican stereotype and/or have serious disagreements with the party's platform.

while i personally have many disagreements with the democratic party, they are necessary to provide a check on the power of the republican party, with which i also have many disagreements. either side can, and as demonstrated, will take its ideology too far if unchecked.

third parties are an answer, but until americans cease their herd mentality in politics, begin voting their consciences, and reform campaign finance, nothing is going to change.

personally, i'm a ron paul voter. i agree with him on everything except two things: i do support college financing, and i do support publicly supported campaigns. the former is necessary to provide an opportunity for many americans to get the education they're not getting, so they can make informed decisions and get ahead in life. the latter is necessary because it allows diversity in politics. equating money with free speech is nonsense. if that were the case, the first amendment would abrogate congress's authority to regulate interstate commerce.

as far as hillary goes, the politics of division is often used by both major parties. while she can be blamed for this tactic, she alone cannot hold the blame. yes, she's a despicable liar, but most politicians are. she and obama have zero experience at running a country. mccain seems to have good ideas regarding domestics, but his insistence on continuing the bush doctrine vis a vis foreign policy is only going to further the decline of our economy and our nation by extension.

the only unifying force in our country that i can see is that of furthering the cause of freedom; many of us simply disagree on how we define it.
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