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Genealogy Everyone has a past, full of ancestors. Do you know who you are related to or how to find out?

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Who is the Genealogy of Jesus Christ?

Genealogy of Jesus ChristMatthew 11. The book of e generation of Jesus, e son of David, e son of Abraham.2. Abraham begat Isaac; &Isaac begat Jacob; & Jacob begat Judas & his brethren;3. And Judas begat Phares & Zara of Thamar; & Phares begat Esrom; & Esrom begat Aram;4. And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;5. And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; & Booz begat Obed of Ruth; & Obed begat Jesse;6. And Jesse begat David e king; & David e king begat Solomon of her tat had been e wife of Urias;7. And Solomon begat Roboam; & Roboam begat Abia; & Abia begat Asa;8. And Asa begat Josaphat & Josaphat begat Joram; & Joram begat Ozias;9. And Ozias begat Joatham; & Joatham begat Achaz; & Achaz begat Ezekias;10. And Ezekias begat Manasses; & Manasses begat Amon; & Amon begat Josias;11. And Josias begat Jechonias & his brethren, abt e time they were carried away 2 Babylon12. And after they were brought 2 Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; & Salathiel begat Zorobabel;13. And Zorobabel begat Abiud; & Abiud begat Eliakim; & Eliakim begat Azor;14. And Azor begat Sadoc; & Sadoc begat Achim; & Achim begat Eliud;15. And Eliud begat Eleazar; & Eleazar begat Matthan; & Matthan begat Jacob;16. And Jacob begat Joseph e husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.17. So all e generations from Abraham 2 David are 14 generations & from David until e carrying away into Babylon are 14 generations & from e carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are 14 generations.What is the generation of mother Mary to now and who is the person? What is the generation of Elizabeth to now and who is the person?The bible say about mother Mary have another son - what happen? Is there generations from a holy family from the bible to now and who is the person?I can't find out from the generations from the bible to now?What is after the last book of the Bible "Revelations" written? Is it stop from there Revelations? What do other saints writing after St. John and where is the story and why is it not in the bible?In Jesus times - why is it call temple not church? Nowdays there is Chinese, Buddhists & Hindus temple. Christians & Catholic call church not following the old ways - why? Nowdays the church doesn't look like a church, somehow like a shopping center.The new bible will be like what? Will it be full of explanation, color & picture? I heard that they have made bible easy to read & understand. Those people say that they have rearrange the bible in order. What is the code? Who can read the code? in what way i understand it?Bible - Just say that i am stressful & got alot of fear - how does it work, if i read the bible & pray, how do i apply it & how do my problem solve?What do you mean, if you read deeper & you will understand the bible & God is with you? I have read the bible from Matthew to Acts & i didn't get anything or God help me. I am still in deep shiit.Those days Saints & Prophets has power & they are fearless. But nowdays Priest & Pastor don't have - why?
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Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 give the genealogy of Jesus. Matthew recorded Joseph's lineage, while Luke gave the family tree of Mary.Interpretation principals To better understand the genealogy of Jesus, it is important to know some of the notions Jews had regarding ancestral records. This section discusses property rights, prophecies, and Jewish use of the word son. Property rights Jews carefully maintained accurate genealogical records. They did so primarily because property rights in Israel were linked to family heritage. When the Jews settled in Israel, the tribes were given portions of the land as an inheritance. Families within each tribe were given parcels of that land. The land could be farmed, developed, or sold. Every 50 years a dispossessed family could lay claim to the parcel of land which their ancestors had received when it was originally distributed. Individuals who could not trace their family had no inheritance in the nation of Israel. They were treated as dispossessed foreigners. This factor alone contributed strongly to the Jewish preoccupation with genealogies. Prophecies Prophecies also contributed to Jewish interest in genealogies. God had promised several people that the messiah would be one of their descendants. To prove this descent, it was important to maintain accurate genealogical records. The table below shows the promises and their fulfillment. Person Promise Fulfillment Adam Genesis 3:15 Luke 3:38 Abraham Genesis 22:18 Matthew 1:1-2Luke 3:34 Judah Genesis 49:10Micah 5:2 Matthew 1:2-3Luke 3:33 Jesse Isaiah 11:1, 10 Matthew 1:5-6Luke 3:33 David 2nd Samuel 7:12-13 Matthew 1:1 & 6Luke 3:31 Use of the word "Son"The Jews did not use the word son in a limited sense, as we do today. Matthew 1:1 states Jesus was the "son of David, the son of Abraham." This appears to indicate that David was the father of Jesus, and Abraham was his grandfather. A Jew would have understood that Matthew did not mean there was only one generation between these men; but that Jesus was a descendant of David, who was a descendant of Abraham. This fact is born out in the verses that follow (Matthew 1:2-17). In the Jewish mind, the word son could be applied to one who was not a literal, first generation son, as is commonly understood today. It could mean a descendant; which could be a grandson, great grandson, or son of a more distant generation. The custom of skipping generations can be called "genealogical abridgement."Genealogical abridgement Genealogical abridgement occurs not only in Matthew 1:1, but also in the Old Testament. Compare Ezra 7:3 with 1st Chronicles 6:7-10, and you can see how Ezra deliberately skipped six generations from Meriaoth to Azariah (son of Johanan). Son could also be used to describe kinship without sonship. Although Zerubbabel was the nephew of Shealtiel (1st Chronicles 3:17-19), he was called the "son of Shealtiel" (Ezra 3:2, Nehemiah 12:1, Haggai 1:12). Jair is another example of this principle. He was a distant son-in-law of Manasseh (1st Chronicles 2:21-23 and 7:14-15); yet, he was called the "son of Manasseh" (Numbers 32:41, Deuteronomy 3:14, 1st Kings 4:13). The point to remember is that the word son can be applied to several types of relationships. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Matthew's genealogy of Jesus Matthew wrote to the Jews to present Jesus as King of the Jews. The account is in Matthew 1:1-17. It begins by showing Jesus was a legal heir to the throne of David, by virtue of his lineage. This fact is immediately set forth in verse one, which states Jesus was the "son of David, the son of Abraham." His kinship to David the King of Israel is mentioned before that of Abraham, the father of Israel. Matthew's genealogy traces the ancestors of Joseph, the legal father of Jesus. Structure of Genealogy Matthew's structure descends from father to son, beginning with Abraham. Additionally, he divides the genealogy into three groups of fourteen generations, separated by important historic points (Matthew 1:17). Three Divisions The three divisions of Matthew's genealogy are: Abraham to the reign of King David (Matthew 1:2-6). David's kingdom to the Babylonian captivity (Matthew 1:6-11). Release from Babylonian captivity to Christ (Matthew 1:12-16). Names in Matthew's Account The names in each division appear below. Abraham to David David to Captivity Release to Christ Abraham David Jeconiah Isaac Solomon Shealtiel Jacob Rehoboam Zerubbabel Judah Abijah Abiud Perez Asa Eliakim Hezron Jehoshaphat Azor Ram Joram Zadok Amminadab Uzziah Achim Nashon Jotham Eliud Salmon Ahaz Eleazar Boaz Hezekiah Matthan Obed Manasseh Jacob Jesse Amon Joseph David Josiah Jesus Christ An Abridged Genealogy Matthew abridged the genealogy by omitting some names that appear in earlier records. Some speculate that the abridged arrangement was intended to aid in memorization. Genealogical abridgement has biblical precedent, as was disussed earlier. Repeated Names It is important to note that Matthew did not say there was a total of 42 generations (i.e. 14 multiplied by 3). He respectively indicated that there were 14 generations from Abraham to David, 14 from David to the Babylonian Captivity, and 14 from the release to Christ. David's name was repeated because he was alive when the first division ended, and when the second division began. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Women in Christ's Genealogy Matthew included five women in his genealogy of Christ. This is notable since it was not customary for Jews to include women in their records. Even more remarkable is the fact that Matthew included some women who had disreputable histories. The five women included were: Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Bathsheba, and Mary. Tamar: Genesis 38:6-30 Tamar was the daughter-in-law of Judah. She was a childless widow, who was given to her brother-in-law after her husband's death. By this marriage, her offspring would continue the name and inheritance of the deceased. Such a union was later called a Leverite marriage (Deut 25:5-6). Unfortunately, Tamar's brother-in-law refused to have proper intercourse with her. God killed him for this. Afterwards, Judah would not give Tamar to any of his other sons. So Tamar disguised herself as a harlot and seduced Judah. Through him, she became the mother of Perez. Rahab: Joshua 2:1-24 Rahab was a harlot who lived in Jericho. She hid the spies of Joshua. Because of this, the Israelites spared her life when they conquered Jericho. She later became the wife of Salmon, and the mother of Boaz. Rahab's faith was later commended (Heb 11:30-31). Ruth: Ruth 1:1-4:22 Ruth was a foreigner from the land of Moab. She was the widow of a Jew. Her mother-in-law, Naomi, also lived in Moab. Naomi journeyed to Israel after her family died. Ruth's devotion was extraordinary. She left her own country to follow Naomi. While in Israel, Ruth was married to Boaz, one of Naomi's relatives. Ruth later became the mother of Obed, the grandfather of David the King. Bathsheba: 2 Samuel 11:1-27 Bathsheba was the wife of Uriah the Hittite, who was a soldier in the army of King David. She and David had an adulterous affair. When David discovered Bathsheba was pregnant, he tried to cover it up by summoning Uriah home from war, hoping that Uriah would have intercourse with his wife. Uriah came home to Jerusalem, but refused to lay with Bathsheba as long as the armies of Israel were at war. So, David sent Uriah back into battle, with orders that Uriah should be withdrawn from when the fighting became fierce. After Uriah was slain in this manner, David took Bathsheba as his own wife. God punished them for this by killing their first child. Bathsheba later became the mother of Solomon. Mary: Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:26-56 Mary was the mother of Jesus and the wife of Joseph. She was a virgin when Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Joseph was betrothed to Mary when he discovered she was pregnant. He intended to put her away secretly because this was shameful. However, an angel told Joseph what had happened. So Joseph took Mary as his wife, and kept her as a virgin until she gave birth to Jesus. During her pregnancy, Mary spent time with her relative Elizabeth, who was the mother of John the Baptist (Luke 1:39-56). Mary was not a perpetual virgin, as she later became the mother of other sons and daughters (Matthew 13:55-56). Mary was a widow at the time of Jesus' death. While on the cross, Jesus committed her to the care of John, his apostle (John 19:25-27). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luke's Genealogy of Jesus This record is in Luke 3:23-38. Luke was a physician. He carefully investigated the life of Christ, and wrote the books of Luke and Acts (Colossians 4:14, Luke 1:1-4, Acts 1:1). Luke's Audience The original readers of Luke's works were Greek Christians. While Matthew wrote to the Jews, Luke wrote to the Greeks. Matthew's genealogy emphasized Jesus' claim to the throne of David. Since Luke's readers were less concerned about the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy, his genealogy focused on Jesus' descent from God. It placed no emphasis on Jesus being the descendant of King David. Reason for Differences Differences between the genealogies of Matthew and Luke may be attributed to the fact that Matthew traced the ancestry of Joseph, while Luke traced the t
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1) What is the generation of mother Mary to now and who is the person?There are no known descendants of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Some sects (Roman Catholics and others) believe that Mary had no children other than Jesus. Others believe that she did. The bible does *not* firmly support either belief. In other words, we don't know for certain if Mary had other children, and even if the relatives of Jesus mentioned in the bible are Mary's children, we do not know of their descendants.2) What is the generation of Elizabeth to now and who is the person?Elizabeth had a son "in her old age". She was, presumably, past child-bearing age when she miraculously conceived John the Baptist. John is not recorded as having a wife or children, and was executed at about the age of 30. It is almost certain that Elizabeth had no other children.3) The bible say about mother Mary have another sonThe bible does *not* make this claim.4) What is after the last book of the Bible "Revelations" written?This is a matter of sectarian belief. Most sects believe that the bible is "closed" and that no new inspired scriptures have been written since the writing of Revelation. Others accept additional documents as inspired. Mormons consider the "Book of Mormon" to be the "last testament" of Jesus. Roman Catholics consider their "canon law" and, to a large extent, the decisions of their "ecumenical councils" to be the result of Godly inspiration. There are many other examples, but nearly all Christian sects do not consider any historical account (such as the gospels or Acts) written after Revelation to be "inspired". Many consider certain prophetic writings to have been inspired, but since agreement is by no means common among Christians, such writings have never been included in bibles.6) Other "saints" writings can be found online. The acceptance of such as authentically "inspired" is left up to the individual by most Christian sects.Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/
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I may not understand your question, Mr. Psalms, but the genealogy of Jesus stops with Jesus because Jesus did not marry and beget children.Though there is contradictory evidence, it looks like Mary did not have other children than Jesus. Certainly this is remembered in the tradition of the church. The "brothers" mentioned in Matt 12:47 and elsewhere are likely cousins.EDIT: See the discussion here: http://www.catholic.com/library/Brethren_of_the_Lord.asp"Today, the most commonly accepted view is that they were Jesus’ cousins. Of the four "brethren" who are named in the Gospels, consider, for the sake of argument, only James. Similar reasoning can be used for the other three. We know that James the younger’s mother was named Mary. Look at the descriptions of the women standing beneath the cross: "among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee" (Matt. 27:56); "There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome" (Mark 15:40)."Then look at what John says: "But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene" (John 19:25). If we compare these parallel accounts of the scene of the crucifixion, we see that the mother of James and Joseph must be the wife of Clopas. So far, so good."An argument against this, though, is that James is elsewhere (Matt. 10:3) described as the son of Alphaeus, which would mean this Mary, whoever she was, was the wife of both Clopas and Alphaeus. But Alphaeus and Clopas are the same person, since the Aramaic name for Alphaeus could be rendered in Greek either as Alphaeus or as Clopas. Another possibility is that Alphaeus took a Greek name similar to his Jewish name, the way that Saul took the name Paul."So it’s probable that James the younger is the son of Mary and Clopas. The second-century historian Hegesippus explains that Clopas was the brother of Joseph, the foster-father of Jesus. James would thus be Joseph’s nephew and a cousin of Jesus, who was Joseph’s putative son."---Thus, Jesus is the end of the genealogy. Cheers,Bruce
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