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Old 04-08-2008, 01:13 PM
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it would definately hurt their agenda and show that they are lieing in order to protect their stance
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It hurts liberalism.
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why doesn't the news report on stories like this about Iraq?

http://www.krg.org/articles/detail.asp?lngnr=12&smap=02010200&rnr=73&anr=23494

would this hurt their agenda?


if you can see the good in this story , you just dont want to ,and need to remove the blinders
asked Fawsi, a Saddam-era police officer who took early retirement to protest Saddam Hussein’s edicts, “What do you think of American and coalition efforts in Iraq?”

Fawsi’s eyes lit up. “Tell you what I think?” Fawsi exclaimed. I felt the intensity of his Iraqi stare. Neither his English nor his body language required any translation. “Tell you how I feel, what I think about since the American liberation?” There was a hint of incredulity that I had asked such an absurd question.

“Allow me to put it this way,” he said. “Now I can go where I want to, see who I want to, speak openly about who or what I want to. I can even speak in a public place about the distaste I have for the government, and …” he paused and looked directly into my eyes, wanting to emphasise his concluding point: “I no longer have to worry about whether I, or any members of my family, will be murdered by my president.We are freed from the weight of Saddam Hussein and his ghoulish henchmen, yes! I am free; fre
I am free; free from Saddam telling me how to live …” pausing again “… and free from him telling me how I am to die.”

His eyes drifted toward the floor. “I no longer have to cry or grieve for my fellow countrymen who are being murdered by him. Americans can’t relate. You want to berate your president for his actions; I wanted to kill mine for his!”

No one in the room spoke. His final words, as he left, were muted: “Thank you, America.Thank you, Mr. Bush, for getting us our lives back.”
hmm wonder why your name is dumdum could it be you dont think for yourself
wow liberals talk about racist, your saying kurds arent good enough to care about basicly, this guy was a cop under saddam, and yet you act like he doesnt matter, you make me seriously cry , your heartless, and should be ashamed
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The story you cite is out of Kurdistan, who have always been the USA's staunch allies in Iraq. The Kurds are not the ones that have been fighting the USA. The Shiites and the Sunnis and are the people with whom we have had the conflict. Originally it was the Sunnis who targeted Americans in addition to targeting the Shiites. Then the Shiites got involved and also fought the Americans. That is what is happening at this very moment in Iraq--conflict with some of the Shiite sects.

The bottom line is that the USA finds itself in the middle of a sectarian conflict in most of Iraq except in the Kurdish region. That fact has of course been reported in the US media, so your question is not grounded in fact.

The place where the Kurds might come into conflict with the USA is in agreeing to allow the Sunnis and Shiites to share in the Kurdish region's oil revenues. The Kurds have been as unwilling as the Shiites to come to an agreement regarding oil export revenue.

Iraq is a basket case because the USA let it become one through hubris and sheer incompetence. We will be picking up the pieces for a long, long time. Yeah, thank you Mr. Bush. Right.


Edited to add: Of course the Kurds are happy and should be. Saddam brutally repressed them. But the rest of Iraq is a basket case and it doesn't appear likely to be anything but one for the foreseeable future.
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Report? We've already got something better- analysis....

[We are witnessing is more accurately described as the road to the Balkanization of Iraq, that is, political fragmentation. We are being asked by the president to believe that this shift of so much power and finance to so many local chieftains is the road to political centralization. He describes the process as building the state from the bottom up.

I challenge you to press the administration's witnesses this week to explain this absurdity. Ask them to name a single historical case where power has been aggregated successfully from local strong men to a central government except through bloody violence leading to a single winner, most often a dictator. That is the history of feudal Europe's transformation to the age of absolute monarchy. It is the story of the American colonization of the west and our Civil War. It took England 800 years to subdue clan rule on what is now the English-Scottish border. And it is the source of violence in Bosnia and Kosovo.

How can our leaders celebrate this diffusion of power as effective state building? More accurately described, it has placed the United States astride several civil wars. And it allows all sides to consolidate, rearm, and refill their financial coffers at the US expense.]
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God that brought tears to my eyes! Im so glad that we can bring freedom and liberty to others in the world. Only Americans sacrifice and lay down their lives time after time to bring freedom to the world. Thats what we are all about!
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The obvious answer....the media has a very sharp, liberal slant.
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The relative success in Kurdistan has received plenty of coverage in the media. I guess you missed it.
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Because they've been a semi-independent state since the mid-90's?

Why doesn't the media report about the lack of earthquakes in Kansas? After all, earthquakes occur in the US, and Kansas is part of the US, so what gives?
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If troops are dying and no one hears them fall do they really die.....The cooperate media has an agenda and it's not good....
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