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Old 04-08-2008, 12:19 PM
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Are most of the Top Gun McCain supporters, comfortable in their 4 to 1 lead...

...over the democratic offerings ??? It is so strange America my not be confident that McCain is a true Conservative. But they loath the Democratic Candidates.
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Its not over till the fat lady sings

To the person who claims dems are socialists, read this and learn what socialism really is.

Socialism
a theory or system of social organization in which the means of production and distribution of goods are owned and controlled collectively or by the government.

Communism
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

There are no candidates that even come close to those two models.

Currently, in the USA, we are a federal republic with democratic principles under a capitalistic economic system and socialism for needed services.

Those needed services are things such as:
Military
Police
Public Education
State, federal and city infrastructures are a mixture of socialism and capitalism working together.
Welfare
etc.

The only area where we are lacking socialism with needed services is our medical system for the average American. Yet the ones who pass the laws, our federally elected officials, enjoy a socialistic medical system. We have to put up with the BS from insurance companies.

Most people have no idea what we are, what kind of government we really have, how that all breaks down in the most simple terms, which would make it blatantly easy to see the contradictions.

I really wish the nay sayers about universal health care would, at the very least, demand that our elected representative stop giving themselves a free ride, or come to the realization that socialism for needed services can be a very good thing for the welfare of our country.

Plus, universal health care is guaranteed in our constitution in the preamble.

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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,

promote the general welfare,

and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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Anyone who says the preamble doesn't count doesn't realize, if that is ignored, then we must ignore the whole constitution. Every word counts.
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Life is so simple, but we insist on making it complicated

Confucius
551 - 479 BC
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Peace

Jim

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disposable got it right.....we don't like socialists and their programs.......

edit: promote the general welfare does not mean that the govt. gives the lazy monthly checks.....not sure that's what the framers had in mind
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Yep sure am
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Liar liar pants on fire.
Got egg on your face?
Wasn't 4 to 1 it was dated 4/1-- April fools is past and your the biggest fool at last.
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no, i will exhale once McCain wins the election, but I will sleep easy once he nominates his first "Scalia" to the court.
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It just proves Americans don't like socialists.
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It is strange indeed that the Democrats continue to give us no choice but to support whatever the Republicans send up.
Had they chosen wisely, it would have been an easy win, but instead they chose 2 of the most radical and least prepared people in the USA to run.
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