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Old 05-09-2008, 04:30 AM
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OOOOh that's tough, gimme the athiest doctor
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:47 AM
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I'll pick second room and pray from God myself as God says in the Holy Quran that God is nearer to us than our artery of life and souls.
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If they were praying the rosary attentively and with love, I would definitely choose the first one. You can read about rosary miracles here (in the middle of the page):http://www.overcomeproblems.com/about_the_rosary.htmThe fifteen promises of Mary to Christians who recite the rosary:1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against Hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries, shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God and become worthy of eternal life.7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plenitude of His graces; at the moment of death, they shall participate in the merits of the saints in Paradise.9. I shall deliver from Purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit high degree of glory in Heaven.11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death.14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons, and brothers of my only Son, Jesus Christ.15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.
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I'm having a moment of clarity. My Dad died horribly from cancer 6 years ago. I watched him waste away to nothing and cry out with horrible pain on a daily basis. The doctors and science failed my Dad. They couldn't save him. The only peace and comfort my Dad had in those last horrible days was his Faith in God and prayer. These things gave him comfort when no doctor or medicine could. When my Dad drew his last breath, he was holding my hand and he smiled. I said, "Dad, you're smiling. Why?" And he said, "I love you. And I'm going home."Science can only go so far and do so much. It is very limited. Where science fails, God takes over and does what science can never do.I choose the room full of people praying. Because when cancer invades your body, you are going to need more than science and medicine to get you through to it's ultimate end.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:41 AM
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A person has cancer. This person is an ardent Atheist, leads demonstrations against Christianity, campaigns against prayer in school & public places, wants "In God We Trust" taken off our currancy, wants "One Nation Under God" taken out of the Pledge of Alligance. Wants no Christian Christmas displays, mocks, is arrogant, and rude to Christians. This person believes in evolution, is pro abortion, and pro gay marriage, This person goes to a hospital for cancer treatment.Room one has Christian doctors with the best state of the art cancer fighting facilities and they pray for their patients. The next room has Atheist doctors only with little or no proper equipment.Which room would the Atheist choose?
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:59 AM
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The question is nonsense. To ignore either room would be totally absurd.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:17 AM
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I find it interesting that when a doctor who treated cancer patients was himself diagnosed with cancer, he chose alternative treatment (no chemo). Then he wrote a book about it and got richer, yet.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:34 AM
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As a Catholic, I would go to the doctor, since faith is compatable with reason. Faith tells me that all healing comes from God, and reason tells me that we are to make use of doctors. The elite religious people of my faith are humble and don't try to manipulate God with silly ultimatums, nor do they seek attention for themselves. But medical studies show that a supporting faith community who prays for/with patients, they tend to have a better recovery. The immorality of the doctor (killing babies) has no bearing on the good (cancer treatment) because of motive, intent, and consequences.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:52 AM
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Lets break down your questionYou do not say which room will cure you of the cancer What you are saying is God (1st room) versus Science (2nd room)There are equal successes and losses on both sides and yet there are still no cures.I believe the cure lies in both rooms co-existing as one room
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:10 AM
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Depends, what room has pizza?
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