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Old 05-15-2008, 05:45 PM
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

Joseph Smith was saved within the Protestant churches before the LDS church was established.. Does anyone really believe that he is in heaven while all of his followers are doomed to hell? Can you see how this type of theology and philosophy just doesn't make sense? I know that I am not speaking to all Protestants but I am certainly speaking to a great number of them.He was a member of the Methodist church, just like George W. BushChris, you are obviously a Martin Luther fan. Martin Luther was a drunken adulterer until the day he died. He even bragged about it. Read the sermon on the mount to decide who goes to heaven and who is in danger of going somewhere else. Jesus' teachings were quite opposite of Martin's.mr Stevie, you may be technically correct. However, we all know if someone attends a church on a regular basis until they are a young adult, they are considered members. Do you really believe that young Joseph sat there for a thousand sundays and never participated in a "saved" prayer? Come on!
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

Prove that he was saved in a church before he started the LDS . You can't.This doesn't affect the fact that it is impossible to lose salvation (1 John 5:13). Salvation is eternal.

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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

Like ANYONE could even CLAIM to know such a thing about another person????
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

Joseph Smith is waiting for Gods judgement.
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:56 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, Joseph Smith was never baptized in another sect.http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1Edit:Joseph Smith was never a member of the Methodist church.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Smith%2C_Jr.#Religious_backgr ound
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:59 PM
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

I don't believe that a saved person would start a church.....Was this question directed to the Protestants or Christians?

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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

I'm not his maker or judge. It's impossible for us to know if Joseph was sincere. God knows his heart.1 Samuel 16:7b The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:04 PM
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

By Joseph Smith's own account, he was never baptized into any religious organization and viewed all of them as "fallacious". Ms. Stevie is correct. Given these facts, Joseph Smith would be in Hell according to those protestants that believe you have to be baptized to be saved.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:06 PM
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Protestants, is Joseph Smith in heaven?

Hey - what is wrong with being a Martin Luther fan? Luther was not perfect, nor was he always the nicest man, be he followed his religious convictions the best that he could. I'm a Martin Luther fan myself - a born and raised Lutheran - I certainly don't worship him though. Let he who is sinless cast the first stone.If God wants Joseph Smith in heaven, then he is there. If God wants Martin Luther in heaven, then he is there too. Peace!
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Who is suppose to judge people? It sure isn't he people on Yahoo!
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