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Old 02-25-2008, 07:06 PM
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Islam: a Religion of Peace?

Nisa 34: if you have suspicion that your wife may rebel, first talk to her, then separate your beds, and then physically punish her (beat her).

Notice that it is not only it is ok to beat woman up, you can beat them up for nothing more than a suspicion.

That doesn’t sound very peaceful to me?
Ps: I am an agnostic from a Muslim family; I believe all religions are somewhat misguided.

Check out these: (I don’t have any good questions on Jews though other than picking on their hats, help me if you can)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Atmm2MxlwEDtm.0nRhZYjynsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid =20080225102221AA5cfEj

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmhplQNwkuWvAZBieEquOlfsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid =20080225111933AAvAT66
so zahida, we can still beat them at some point though right? besides who is the judge of rather or not she is behaving? oohh yeah us men!!
so we are the judge, jury, and the executioner!! awesome!! this is a better gig then this one time, in the band camp.......
I repeat, I am from a Muslim family, so my dad and grand mom and most everyone else is Muslim and i love them to death. but i don't agree with them. so please do not treat me as if i am racist and ignorant. i have read the Quran and i have seen muslim households in action. i don't care what are the circumstances and i don't care how soft it is, you can not justify physical violence towards another person to me. it may just be lite tapping. a beating is a beating and it is physical violance.

where i live (nyc) you can sue a person for assault for if he/she touches you without your concent.
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answer: It doesn't seem peaceful to me either. I read the Quran and reject it as oppressive, violent, threatening and elitist.

Honor killings, riots and killings over a cartoon or someone naming a teddy bear Mohammad (why didn't they beat the kids or stone them instead of wanting the teacher dead?). Women needing permission to even leave the house. Instructions to lie to Jews and Christians and kill non-believers. Repeated threats that non-believers will suffer eternal torment even though Allah blinded them and refused to let them know the "truth."

Illogical, violent and oppressive.

No religion of love and peace
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:15 PM
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why dont you read the verse before and after this verse......and by the way its punish her (lightly)..
“And they (women) have rights similar to those of men over them in kindness” (2:228)
As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of theallegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or(until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation). Vse 15. Nisa 4
O ye who believe! It is not lawful for you forcibly to inherit the women (of your deceased kinsmen), nor (that) ye should put constraint upon them that ye may take away a part of that which ye have given them,unless they be guilty of flagrant lewdness. But consort with them in kindness, for if ye hate them it may happen that ye hate a thing wherein Allah hath placed much good. Verse: 19 Nisa 4
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient,and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them(first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them(lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).Ayah: 34 Nisa

And if ye fear a breach between them twain (the man and wife), appoint an arbiter from his folk and an arbiter from her folk. If they desire amendment Allah will make them of one mind. Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Aware.Ayah: 35 An Nisa...
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:19 PM
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yea indeed u r right.. let me tell u somethin..i think have disproved an important thing in Islam check it out in my profile's questions( if u have time)........
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:20 PM
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It's like the parts of the bible that christians like to skim over.
http://www.evilbible.com
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