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Religion & Spirituality All Aspects are covered, Please respect others beliefs.

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Old 05-16-2008, 02:55 AM
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

I arrogantly believe that I am smarter than a fifth grader - and I believe my arrogance is justified.
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

Great question. It depends on whether you're trying to accomplish humiliating someone, or genuinely correcting them. Here are my thoughts, based largely on experience in conversation with people of differing opinions. People do not respond well to aggressive language or posturing in a conversation; they will shut down and intentionally disagree with you. This is especially counterproductive when you pose a proposition to someone that requires their further pondering of the facts and circumstances. In stead of honestly trying to consider something you say, they will seek to find any information, whether trustworthy or not, or in context or not, that disagrees with you.To give you an example, yesterday someone asked the question "if the big bang is true, why is the Universe being pulled back together and not still expanding". Now, this question was based on an factually incorrect assumption (the universe has not stopped expanding, but rather, is expanding faster than previously calculated due to Dark Energy, only recently discovered). Instead of being arrogant or rude, I kindly corrected this person's information and posted a link to a humorous conversation between Jon Stewart and a popular Astrophysicist who, through the course of this televised interview, touched on that subject.Second, morality is an issue. You have to ask yourself to what standard to you seek to hold yourself and your moral compass; that is a question only you can answer.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:58 AM
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

I don't believe arrogance is ever justified. Substitute loving kindness and compassion and I think you will get better results. Arrogance causes hard feelings, it makes others feel ashamed and shame never solves anything.. It makes a person feel "less than" and that never works. Arrogance is a waste of time, it never helps a person see a new way act or think. Loving kindness and compassion is the way to go.
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

I'd rather hear the honest truth than a pleasant lie, unfortunately I also rather give it. Seems to a trait that it underappreciated.
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

I can comment all day long on these answers and i can also refute them easily enough as well but is answer to your specific question Wesley said "yes" Calvin said "No" but I will remain neutral on it and say we all will be entirely sanctified in heaven where we will be perfect, and we will inherit God's Kingdom
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

I find that lawyers have a tendency to be arrogant. I've supposed that its part of the necessary makeup for the job. I find arrogance very distasteful - and unnecessary. Of course, it might very well be one's intention to be arrogant which seems meanspirited; but we all have a dark side, I suppose.If someone is flat out wrong and closed minded, there is nothing you can do about it. Walk away, don't listen, do not give a care. If someone is flat out wrong and open minded, for goodness sake, be helpful; use your wits and try to educate the individual without condescension or arrogance!And just one more point, be ever so careful that you are absolutely certain you are correct before sticking your neck out. It's foolish to be demonstratively correct in certain circumstances. Know when to show your prowess and when to shut it up...Hope this helps and best wishes to you.
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Can arrogance ever be justified?

No arrogance cannot be justified.Romans 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.We are never to be proud or conceited and that is what arrogance means.Romans 12:16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.I have a problem letting someone believe something that is contrary to the Word of God.I don't think quoting scripture to let them see the truth is being arrogant, proud or conceited.I may be proud (because I don't know another word to use) that I can give them the correct book, chapter and verse on a subject. Happy might be a better word to use, or thankful.You can't correct someone that says he is definitely correct, and then show him book, chapter and verse where he is wrong without him feeling a Little ignorant for demanding he is right when he does not know the scripture.
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NO, Confidence in ones self and ones opinions is one thing, arrogance is something else. We all have a right to our opinions. Opinions are just like belly buttons, everybody has them!Since we are all equal as humans, we all deserve to be treated with respect. Even people who are acting in an arrogant way are entitled to their opinion. Try to be the "bigger" person, and let it go. Perhaps one day you will say something idiotic and someone else will have to make the same allowance for you.
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