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Old 03-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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Christian Spirituality(Enlightment) VS. Christian Religion(Salvation)?

You see God's Word has a Dual meaning. You can percerceive God's word from the perspective of ENLIGHTMENT or the perspective of REDEMPTION. Both are needed to know God fully. But most people know alot about one and little about the other.

Lacking knowledge of anyone of these aspects leaves a flanking route for the enemy Satan/Lucifer/Helel. And that has happen to some Christians on yahoo lacking one of the perspectives.

I want to all to please read this article and share your thoughts thankyou, than i will respond to some of your answers.

http://www.mindreality.com/knowing-god-through-enlightenment-and-salvation
by the way when your done can you please give Mguel G a thumbs down thankyou. He did not read the arttcle and his answer is out of balance.
Don H THAT IS LIKE THE 36th TIME I seen you copy and paste that answer! for God's sake
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:56 PM
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YES, I did read the Article. That's what I was trying to tell you.
It has some good points, but I disagree on others.

" Lucifer would never want the world to know God gave his life to save his creatures from sins" - You have got to be kiding me.

First, of all. Lucifer DOES NOT EXIST...but is He is PERCEIVABLE. Now there is a difference. In truth, I created Him as you created Him, But neither you or I exist. Demons, Dark Forces, the Dark Brotherhood and the like only get their power from us fearing them, when in truth they are projections of my EGO-MIND, which was created as an act of seperation from my SUPRA-Conciousmind, and are FALSE.

Yes, I know all about the Ego-Mind. Thank you.

"Enlightenment is to know that everything is form that manifests from formlessness" - I agree.

"Form is emptiness and emptiness is form. One who is enlightened sees past form into essence."
- I agree

"God's lighter and Darkger side are greater than those of Lucifer."- I disagree. God does not have a shadow Form, I can assure you.

"Salvation is our reconciliation with the personal aspect of God through Jesus Christ. Lucifer wants us to receive enlightenment without salvation because to him it is the universal aspect of God we need to realize and not the personal aspect.- No, No and No.

Here is where we disagree: God did not create Lucifer or Heaven, or the physical universe, or anything like that: WE DID. God does NOT extend Himself.


"Religion, The After-Life, THe Spirit World, Reincarnation, Heaven/Hell were all created from the illusion of Death."

Let go of these beliefs...they have nothing to do with our soul purpose.

What is very very important for people to understand is:

There is no Second Coming, The Golden Age is Already Here.

The bible says: "What you looking, the kingdom has come but you do not know it." and :"The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand."

In Islamic Sufism (the equivalent of gnosticm) it is written: The kingdom of Heaven is laid out upon the Earth but you Cannot See It."

In the bible, Adam and Eve fell into a deep sleep but nowhere does it say that they ever woke up. It is always amazes me that so few people care to admit that soul evolution TAKES WORK. You have to earn it. It is a Second Coming in the sense that we all one day must develop Christ Conciousness (though meditation), and free ourselves from this self-induced stupor. Perhaps that is what you refering to?

We all know Jesus said: The Kingdom of Heaven is Within.
Enjoy the following:

St Anthony: "I beheld a Light that never changes deep withing me soul, and in it I observed the true nature of God and Man.:"

Buddha said: "Look within, you are the Awakened ONE."

Mohammed said: "In the depths of the soul we find Divinity, the ONE."

Hinduism: "Brahman (Heavenly Conciusness) and Atman (Earhtly Conciousness) are ONE."
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