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Old 06-15-2008, 09:16 AM
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Why the double standard?

Why ware we as a society supposed to believe anything positive about women's natural abilities/inclinations...But at the same time reject anything positive about men's natural abilities/inclinations?If you were to say you thought women were better multi-taskers for instance. I'm sure you'd get agreement from nearly everyone that heard that view.BUT, if you were to suggest that men are better mechanically /spatial relations... you'd get a much different result.What happened to Larry Summers is a great example of this on a much larger and more dangerous scale.If it had been a woman that spoke about the "nurturing" nature of women or the "multi-tasking" thing, no one would have batted an eyelash.http://isteve.com/2005_Education_of_Larry_Summers.htm...And he had scientific research on his side.When our PC culture tries to silence scientific findings...We're heading down a dangerous path.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:56 AM
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Buddy, one thing Ive learned from playing this yahoo answers game is that the more logical and fundamental your argument is, the more likely you are to offend the bigot and get your account suspended. This site is primarily devoted to reinforcing bigotry and intolerance and supporting stereotype- especially if its pro-women or anti-Christian.====Did you know that male brains are bigger than female brains? Its true. Female brains tend to be more densely packed though.Did you know that males have a sixth sense that women do not have? The gene for it is on the y-chromosome. Its a sense that few men develop and is in fact evolutionarily fading out of existence.====Women are hypocrites. What do you want to know? They wont ever admit it and will forever argue the point; and they will ignore any argument you or I may have - they will rationalize everything because it angers them to believe otherwiseWhy are women sex objects? Oh sure, they claim not to be... but whats with the constant weight-watching, makeup kits, mirrors, plastic surgery, clothing style, comparing femininity, celebrity gossip, forced "feminine" mannerisms obsession? Whats with the "does my asss look big," skin showing, shape emphasizing, bra-stuffing, bikini-preferring lifestyle? Why do they claim to want a nice respectful guy an then pursue the jerk that will use them and dump them? Have you ever gotten away with telling a gf she -wasnt- the hottest thing you have ever seen, that she -wasnt- looking wonderful today; have you told her she has a "beautiful personality," or that she was "cute"? How many women abort fetuses because the prospect of stretch marks and a poor dating life concerns them? Whats with women who chose to prostitute themselves by being dance club dancers, hooters-girls, models, gold-diggers, using their sexuality as a tool to manipulate, accepting larger than deserved tips or opportunity for lesser quality work, and withhold sex in a relationship as leverage, justifying the objectified usage of their sex appeal as "using what you were blessed with," or "having what men want"? Who do all these superficial, sexually-oriented things and then say they do it for themselves, not for men... even though it if wasnt for male opinion shaping what is and isnt sexually attractive and the male response to their femininity, they wouldnt be doing them. All the while asking you treat them like a lady, chivalrously, and as an equal at the same time... but wont show the same chivalrous respect to a man... because -that- would be degrading..., who think its acceptable to "put a man in his place" (sometimes even pervertedly getting off on male humiliation). The sort that think a woman has more rights to her children than a man does, who think they deserve financial compensation from their ex-husbands no matter how much either did or may make, who think its their privilege to kill their husbands or boyfriends unborn child without his agreeing - who think a man has the obligation to support the child if she decides to keep the kid, but that its her choice to keep it or not because she is the one that suffers the consequences. They dont mind the war of the sexes as long as they are in the leadThey have enough sexual bigotry against men to accuse them of being pedophiles if they socialize with kids, or of being a potential rapist for hanging out at odd locations at odd times - where women happen to also be, or of being an adulterer for spending time with female friends. They have enough bigotry to actually lay claim to "inherent feminine virtue." They believe they understand men... but only because the females they gossip with validate their prejudices... and they do very little to actually verify their presumptions by asking and conversing with men or giving them the opportunity to prove otherwise (or even presuming that a man bares responsibility to disprove stereotype).Women have equal rights under law. No, they have more rights. I dont know anyone, anywhere who has ever complained about being subjugated by men and not permitted to succeed. I know plenty of successful women. Few actually got there through hard work, though. Hard work does pay off... but most of the successful women I know have chosen not to work hard - they had gotten there by using their feminine wiles at some point, to earn points, sympathy, etc. They enjoy and expect men to play their sex and romance games on their terms, but find it unfair to play the professional "male" game on male terms - ie hard work. But I know many men who have been brushed aside and subjugated by the "equal opportunity act." But the feminists movement will not end! They want female supremacy===Men are guilty of some social double standards too.I find lesbianism disgusting, personally. Nothing wrong with being that way, I dont question peoples sexuality. But that doenst mean I want to watch or that I get off from it. I dont care any more for watching lesbian sex than I do for gay man sex.... lesbians dont "do" anything for me. How can they? Being lesbian means Id be wasting my time and energy on them. But many men will say lesbian sex is hot and gay sex not. And even women will agree. I dont see it. Actually, that is another problem with women. Many women will lay claim to being bisexual or of having had a bisexual encounter. I dont want a girl to lie to me, of course, or withhold the truth. But many women will claim it because they stereotypically think a man will appreciate it... and they get offended when I tell them it turns me off. Oh God do they get offended! Because its unexpected? Atypical and therefore Im not predictable?Another hypocrisy with women is that they rarely ever accept a man who is or was bisexual. Just being a metrosexual heterosexual is enough to turn many women away. And yet bisexuality in women isnt just a growing social norm, its almost expected and preferred by many... even in monogamous heterosexual relationships.====The sexual revolution has gone from womens suffrage and the search for equal rights and privileges under law and society... to the pursuit of female supremacy. Women do more to undermine their gender than men have ever done... they are more superficial to other women and to themselves, and sometimes against men too, than men could ever be to them. The womens rights movement has gone from a culture of males degrading women to a culture of women degrading women... and women degrading men... women have self-degraded to the levels of social and ethical expectation that they have always stereotypically labeled men to be at naturally... all in the name of equality. Lowering themselves to the male level instead of raising men up to theirs.I am either a feminist or an anti-feminist, depending on the injustice I observe. I am an equalist and that is it, I will argue either side for balance. To me, the term feminist in a world where women already have equal rights and more is only indicative of an unjust, proactive social rebellion to establish superiority... feminism equals feminazism====On a side note, Im against the whole Politically Correct fad. There is no such thing. The phrase "mentally retarded" was once PC. Sure, there are more accurate ways of labeling specific conditions. But it amounts to the same. Each and every PC term we currently have will eventually make it into pop culture and as a standardized term... and from there, it will become an offensive word. PC is only PC when its a technical term used solely by the professional community. When regular joes start using "mentally handicapped" instead of "mentally retarded," the term loses its PC objectivity and becomes an insult to somebody somewhere... then we will have to invent a new PC term. And we have. "Mentally handicapped" is no longer uninsulting and therefore no longer PC. Whats the latest term this month? I have no idea. Eventually we will be expected to be psychic... forced to call people by their specific condition, even though we have no way of knowing... or else not label them at all.====I agree with Princess!!, below, for the most part.Notice that she calls herself Princess!!. And the double exclamation point really does it for me. That is very typical, very stereotypical... very predictable in women. Its either "beautiful,""princess" or "sexxy" or what have you. Yet another self-objectification. Women want to be the "sexy" that seduces men. Women want to be the "princess" that sweeps her knight off his feet and live happily ever after.I disagree with Princess!! on one thing though. I think generalizing and prejudice are healthy. I think it is essential to learning and growing... an integral part of human intellect... the ability to notice and extrapolate patterns in seemingly unpredictable and inconsistent chaos. Every scientific hypothesis is a presupposition, a prejudice, that gets proven or disproven in scientific experimentation... they are formed when we take many separate observations and induce a connection that may or may not exist. Without the ability to generalize, humanity would still be swinging from trees throwing fecal matter at one another. Social stereotypes are no different... psychologists and sociologists do it. The difference though is the fact that you and I dont have PhDs in the subject... that is what turns us from being taken seriously as objective scientists to being taken as bigots. Scientific truth is often ignored because its offensive, and accepted on pure faith when it compliments or supports ones biases. Stereotype is healthy and a sign of intellect. Have you noticed that retards are innocents? They lack the capacity to form hate based on stereotype... and to tie their shoes
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:35 AM
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Why the double standard?

Sure, we're on that dangerous path what with feminist hypocrisy, blatant misandry, double standards, and political correctness inanity.We could really do with a friendly alien invasion from outer space to remove it all and establish a new order.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:15 AM
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Why the double standard?

I'm going to get right ot the point. A double standard is when you say something and you mean what you say. then you turn around and do the complete opposite of what you said.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:54 AM
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Why the double standard?

You get people with double standards in nearly every area of debate. I think your question is also a double standard because you use the example of women being multi taskers etc, but also there's so many negative sterotypes which you don't mention like women being weak, bad at making decisions, bad drivers, too emotional etc.It's ignorant to generalise anyone, epcially without knowing them and despite what science says, there isn't one characteristic which all men have or all women.Not all men have good spacial awareness and are practical thinkers, in the same way not all women lack spacial awareness and are over emotional. Science can't prove anything, because not everyone's brain is the same. If it were then you would get no men carers, artists etc and no women mathematicians or engineers.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:34 PM
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Why the double standard?

Having a purpose of giving better conditions to one gender without regard to the other one makes this.Feminist propaganda have brainwashed the public opinion into thinking that men are evil and women are virtuous. That and politically correctness have made America to cease to be the land of the free and become closer and closer to a fascist state.
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:14 PM
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Why the double standard?

I agree with princess. (Gosh, did I really say that?)
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:53 PM
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Why the double standard?

There is a history of women being attributed all the positive traits (kind, gentle, caring, sharing, nurturing), and men all the negative (angry, violent, immature, sexist).It is dangerous. Science is only accepted if it proves women are better than men in some way. Otherwise, it is disregarded simply because the results aren't something feminists wanted to hear.This double-standard only exists because men tolerate it. Things must change. Our Congressmen won't do it. We must. We have to make things change. By oursleves. Without expecting the women to help.Rise men! Fell the feminism, and let equalism reign supreme!
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Why the double standard?

Im with Nick on this one, he made some REALLY good points
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