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Old 03-03-2008, 05:49 PM
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What do Jehovah's Witnesses think the Holy Spirit is and what does the Bible

teach about the Holy Spirit??? Acts 5:3-4 Holy Spirit can be lied to. When you lie to the Holy Spirit, you lie to God.
Acts 13:2 Holy Spirit speaks and uses a personal pronoun of himself. He can be obeyed.
1 Cor. 2:10 Holy Spirit has a mind/searches.
Eph. 4:30 Holy Spirit has emotions/may be grieved.
John 16:7 Holy Spirit has a will.
John 14:26 Holy Spirit teaches.
John 15:26 Holy Spirit testifies.
Acts 8:29 Holy Spirit issues commands.
Rom. 8:26 Holy Spirit intercedes/prays.

Given these clear examples that the Holy Spirit is more than just a force, but is in fact a person of the godhead, can you see that the Watchtower's teaching about the Holy Spirit is incomplete?
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Great question!
They will give you "a finger talk" if they come around. They believe that Holy Spirit is an impersonal active force of God, a little bit like electricity.
Like you have listed here we can see that Holy Spirit is Person. Why would anyone lie to an impersonal active force? An impersonal active force cannot teach you or testify, it cannot pray it cannot be grieved.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in Trinity and that explains their position.
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True, whatever you do to the holy Spirit, you are doing to God also. But it doesn’t mean that the holy Spirit is ANOTHER PERSON of God but in fact A PART OF GOD.

Luke 11:20 called the holy spirit, God's finger. See parallel in Matthew 12:28. The holy spirit is a part of God, not a separate person of God. If you say " I clapped" most probably it means "I clapped with my hands". The instrument that was used to make the sound is the hands. God uses his spirit (his active force) in doing what he wants. If the spirit can be grieved, teach and speak the Bible points that it is God who was being grieved, who teaches and speaks. God uses his spirit to do those things. If you go against the workings of the holy spirit you are actually going against the workings of the owner of that spirit, the Father Jehovah. See 2 Cor 3:17

One of the things that the holy spirit is consistently called in the Bible is the “spirit of God” and also the “spirit of Jehovah”. (Mat 3:16, Zech 6:8). Now if the “spirit of God” is a person as the Trinitarians are saying, then they will have a problem, when they read Rev 4:5 where it states “. 5 And out of the throne there are proceeding lightnings and voices and thunders; and [there are] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, and these mean the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD”

So now, Trinitarians are now believing in 7 more persons of God. But of course, as expected, in Rev 4:5 they will NOW change the meaning of the “spirit of God” to something else. And in that case, it is NOT a person.


E.W. Bullinger remarks in Appendix 9 of the Companion Bible for the meaning of the spirit:

The meaning of the word is to be deduced only from its usage. The one root idea running through all of the passages is invisible force.

The spirit is not a separate person of God, but a part of the Father. That's why in all the visions of God's people in the heaven, only two are present, the Son and the Father. That's why Jesus said that we have to exercise faith in the Father and the Son (John 14:1, John 17) not mentioning any other person, because the holy spirit is already part of the Father.




Is God composed of THREE PERSONS?

Gen 17:1 states “, then Jehovah appeared to A´bram and said to him: “I am God Almighty”

Do you use the phrase “I am” for THREE persons or you only use it for ONE Person?
If God is composed of THREE persons, God should have said “WE ARE God” but you cannot find that it the Bible.

You never use the phrase “I am” for THREE Persons. I am is only used for one person.

JESUS said to the Father also in John 17:3, that the Father is the “ONLY True God”, this means there is one and only one person who is God, the Father. and this is confirmed in 1 Cor 8:5 where is states “6 there is actually to us one God the FATHER”.Notice the Father only. Notice also in John 17:3 Jesus excluded himself as the only true God. Instead of saying “We are the only true God” JESUS said “YOU (referring to the Father), and not US” as the only true God. Now are you against Jesus?

Now, if the Son is Jehovah, the Father is Jehovah and the holy spirit is Jehovah according to the Trinity doctrine, then these THREE PERSONS, are THREE Jehovah.

But the Bible says in Deut 6:4 Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.

Notice in Deut 6:4 it used “IS” and only ONE person is involved. If there are three Jehovah then it should have used ARE for THREE persons.

There is ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, who is God Almighty.



Notice also the usage of the word spirit in the Bible. The Bible states that the spirit are used for baptism just like water, enveloped with spirit, etc. The holy spirit is inserted, or sandwiched in, with a number of qualities ( 2 Corinthians 6:6)
And more than a hundred times the holy spirit is referred to as “the spirit of Jehovah,” “God’s spirit,” “my spirit” and “spirit of Jesus Christ.” All such possessive uses of the holy spirit further argue that it is an instrumentality rather than a separate and distinct person.—Judg. 3:10; Matt. 3:16; Acts 2:18; Phil. 1:19, NW.

The spirit is not a separate person of God, but a part of the Father. That's why in all the visions of God's people in the heaven, only two are present, the Son and the Father. That's why Jesus said that we have to exercise faith in the Father and the Son (John 14:1, John 17) not mentioning any other person, because the holy spirit is already part of the Father.


Jehovah used his holy spirit, which is part of him not a separate person, to talk to his people. Any channel that Jehovah used,even angels, carry the messages of Jehovah as if that channel is Jehovah.
Please see Exodus 3:2, 6
2 - Then Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush
6- And he went on to say: “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” Then Moses concealed his face, because he was afraid to look at the [true] God.

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Question for you. DO you think God is a liar?

Isa 44:6 states that there is no other God besides him.
- This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ‘I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.

This means that there is no other God, who is Almighty, and the Repurchaser. Notice the phrase it used, “I AM” and “ME”. DO you use the phrases “I am” and “ME” for THREE PERSONS? The phrase “I am” is not used for THREE PERSONS and to ONLY ONE PERSON.

Because it uses the phrase "I am" AND “ME” and “NO GOD BESIDES ME” in Isa 44:6, so there is no room for OTHER persons who are part of God, isn't it? So Isa 44:6 PROVES that God is only ONE PERSON, not THREE

IF only one person is talking in Isa 44:6 and he said “Besides ME, there is NO GOD” then if there’s still TWO OTHER PERSONS who is God, then you are saying that God is telling a lie.

God is not a liar, so it is the Trinity doctrine that is wrong.
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You see what kind of trouble Christians get into when one false doctrine is accepted -- that we humans are made up of a body, a soul, and a spirit? You open the door to another false doctrine -- that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are not Three separate and complete Beings whom rule together, as One and in Unity, as co-eternal Persons of the Godhead.

God bless.
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