Jesus said that no one can come to Him unless first drawn by the Father (John 6:44).?

[i'm curious, george]

If that's true, then doesn't God choose who He damns?

[tuberoot]

Yes! You got it.

Romans 9
22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory

[PrincessLeia]

To let people know what you're talking about:
John 6: 44
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

To translate into lay man's terms:

"God told me to get people to attract them to me."
(..."hath sent ME draw HIM***...")

People are supposed to be drawn to Jesus by Jesus.

Does that makes sense now?

Good.

[Ftwasher]

God is powerful enough to bring things about that he wills and still allow free will of men, since there are scriptures that say both, God is in total control and we have free will. both are true

[DR.BRAYNE]

if jesus really said that ,it woulda been on the 10:00 news

[Dadof4]

Pretty much every one at one time or another has been "Drawn" by God but some resist to the point of becoming callous and then ....that's it.
As a young man,God was always putting people in my way who witnessed and I avoided them like fire!Then one day in my car on the way to work at 3:00 am,I heard this gruff guy talking about pyramids and Napoleon and the Rosetta Stone with some religion mixed in (that was the late ,great Dr. Gene Scott)and I couldn't hear enough! God finds the ways to get to you if you are open.Me,being a (in the 60s thru 80s) a long haired surfer would never go to a "suit" church.He got me into Calvary Chapel where people wore shorts and Ts and tennys,but preached a solid Gospel.I listened to Gene for many many years .What a brilliant man.Even my friends at Calvary Chapel thought he was way out there.Well,their loss not mine.
Not everyone will be saved.There is an "elect".Why? I don't know.Why me?I don't know.
Even when Jesus spoke hard parables and they asked" why?"He said it isn't for everyone to understand.
Why? I don't know.Mainly it is the hardness of man's heart.

[n_007pen]

Nope! Jesus said in Matthew 24:14; And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Everybody is given the chance to hear the gospel message once in their life. To some, they hear it more than once.

What damns us, is what we do with this message after we've heard it!

The choice is ours!

Jesus said that is God's will that none should parish...

Through Jesus, God has done all that he's gonna do!

It's up to us now to believe and receive, to except or reject.

May God's Grace, Love and Mercy, enlighten and shine in your heart. In Jesus name.

[sphinsa]

SO TRUE.
Isaiah 46:10 KJV
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done , (the story has already been written) saying , My counsel shall stand ,(u will do what I want) and I will do all my pleasure:

Revelation 17:8 KJV
...whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world...

Names not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world...means they had no chance, since the foundation of the world

Luke 18:7 KJV
And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

Ephesians 1:3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4. According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

God's elect...Gods choice, how blind do you have to be to not see that.

I can keep going but my hand would get tired... Besides anyone who says anything different from the word of God is froward, is not elect and there is no use trying to convince them because God did not give them eyes to see and ears to hear. (p.s. that means ur going to... )

[MrgLvWsdm]

Let's start with the prayer of the man in the Gospel, Lord, Help my unbelief.
1) you can pray for faith
2) you can pre-dispose yourself to it by finding out what the Faith is. For example, do you know the Nicene Creed ?
3) You can still be responsible for your lack of Faith by violating your conscience. You know right now right and wrong. And you knew it those times you did what you knew to be gravely wrong. Those violations are violations against the same God who gives Faith.


NICENE CREED
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty,
Maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God,
begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:
By the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, death, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures;
He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
And his kingdom will have no end
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life,
Who proceeds from the Father and the Son
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
And the life of the world to come. Amen

[random_thoughtz526]

No, because even if God tries to reach people, He is rejected by some. It is the individual's choice. God cannot force people to do something against their will.
It seems to me you're working really hard to try to prove Christianity is a sham. I personally feel you're wasting your time. There were thousands (or more) before you who did the same thing, but how come no one succeeded? Why are Christians still the majority?